Bonus podcast episode for the feature "All Heart" on Derek Smith. Coach Bill Olsen of the University of Louisville shares stories about Derek earning the respect of older players at Crawford Gym and him having a dream of becoming like his cousin Gar Heard.

Jerry Eaves came on The Handle to talk about the Louisville Cardinals of the early 1980s, the 1980 NCAA National Championship, coach Frank Layden's personality and Utah Jazz teams and the various other stops Jerry has had in his basketball career.